It seems to me that there are a fair number who have left because of that, like Bejoy, Nolinbehari etc. and others who fell in the same way, e.g. X. And yet that was not a full descent, but only a very little bit of a thing.
Why should there be a “presence here”, or in what sense? It is for each one to open to these levels in his own being when he is ready to do so.
