My World: The Mother – by Shanti Doshi (IV)

Q: Why does not the spiritual consciousness stay always?

A: Because the ordinary consciousness chases it out.

19.4.1935

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Q: The part which tells me, “unite yourself with the Divine”, is it already united?

A: Not necessarily, but it can have had a little experience of the Divine Reality.

20.4.1935

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Q: What is to be done so that the ordinary consciousness does not chase out the spiritual?

A: Remembrance of it always and in all circumstance.

20.4.1935

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I do not believe much in pure love among human beings.

20.4.1935

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Q: What do you mean by “spiritual consciousness”?

A: In a general way, the consciousness that is turned towards the Divine.

4.1935

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“When we have passed beyond individualising then we shall be real Persons.”

“When we have passed beyond humanity, then we shall be the Man.”

(Sri Aurobindo: Thoughts and Glimpses)

 

Q: What is the difference between Person and Man?

A: A Person is a being fully conscious and individualised (not necessarily a man). The gods are persons.

Man is he who still belongs to animality.

28.4.1935

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Affinities are almost instinctive and do not have much importance. One has only to take care that they do not turn into attachments.

2.5.1935

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Each one has his qualities and his defects.

2.5.1935

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Only he who seeks the Truth integrally does yoga. Those who do it in the mind alone or in the higher vital alone are not in yoga.

Things are not so strictly cut out. One may have commenced the yoga in some part of his being while the rest — the other parts of his being — still refuse to be transformed.

2.5.1935

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Almost all persons descend to their most ordinary consciousness when they enter into contact with others.

3.5.1935

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It is better, evidently, not to lay stress on the dark side of things.

3.5.1935

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Q: What should I do to remain in my central consciousness and not to go down to the ordinary when I meet others?

A: Never to forget the Divine Presence.

4.5.1935

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Q: P says that you change according to her condition.

A: No, I do not change according to the state of the people. It is their impression of me that changes with their mood of the moment.

4.5.1935

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To be in peace is good. You must not risk spoiling it by speaking of this state.

4.5.1935

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It is desire and revolt which prevent the vital from feeling the Presence; but the fact that you do not feel it is no proof at all that it is not there.

8.5.1935

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Q: What did you say this morning during Pranam?

A: That it is very easy to convert the vital if the will is not divided.

9.5.1935

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Q: Today I felt thy Presence and closeness. But I feel it no more now. I think the atmosphere of somebody from outside has spoilt it.

A: The loss of the experience is most probably due to the intrusion of a foreign force.

9.5.1935

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Q: What is to be done to prevent a foreign force from entering into us whenever there is a good experience?

A: A foreign and undesirable force does not always enter into us every time we have a good experience; on the contrary, the good experience ought to give the necessary force to repel the foreign force when it tries to enter.

10.5.1935

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Q: I do not understand what one gains by telling lies.

A: Certainly, one gains nothing by lying, on the contrary one obscures the consciousness.

12.5.1935

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Q: I do not see anywhere any superhuman life, the divine life.

A: If your consciousness were superhuman, divine or even spiritual, you would see this same consciousness everywhere.

13.5.1935

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It is only in inner peace that your consecration can become perfect.

13.5.1935

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Q: I have headaches. Perhaps I should stop thinking of sadhana, I do not see any other way of keeping peace.

A: It is certainly not the sadhana which hinders the inner peace; on the contrary, since the sadhana is entirely based upon this inner peace which is the essential condition for progress. Certainly a patient concentration is necessary for entering into contact with the psychic consciousness.

14.5.1935

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Q: What hinders the inner peace?

A: Mental and vital restlessness.

15.5.1935

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Q: I do not know why obscurity sets in so often and remains long. It was not so before. Does it mean that I have deteriorated?

A: No, you have become more conscious. Formerly there was much more obscurity but you were not conscious of it. It did not appear to you as obscurity.

17.5.1935

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Q: There is no more peace, love and energy to work. Through what state am I passing?

A: A period of transition in which you have become more conscious but have not yet acquired control.

17.5.1935

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Q: In which part is this obscurity and how long will it remain?

A: Especially in the physical consciousness — till the physical is illumined.

17.5.1935

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Q: What should I do to get illumined the physical and the vital which, I suppose, is also equally obscure?

A: Prefer always light to obscurity.

18.5.1935

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Q: Are there many persons in the Ashram who do not believe that you are the Divine Incarnate?

A: I have made no enquiry on the subject.

Q: Is it true that you will disappear one day?

A: Who has told of this extraordinary thing?

18.5.1995

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Q: The obscurity must go. I am prepared to do anything you wish. Let it evaporate.

A: I am there and I cast on you all the light needed to dissolve the obscurity no matter which. It is for you to receive it.

18.5.1935

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Q: What should I do to get rid of vanity, ignorance, jealousy etc.?

A: To rise above the lower nature and take shelter in the psychic nature.

Q: I have already made effort to dissolve them, has it been in vain?

A: No, you have made progress; but character is difficult to change and that cannot be done quick.

21.5.1935

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Q: When shall I be thine?

A: Sooner than you think.

21.5.1935

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Q: What is the way I should follow? What is the correct method?

A: Make the brain work by studying regularly and systematically; then during the hours you do not study, your brain which will have worked enough can rest and it will be possible for you to concentrate in the depths of the heart and find there the psychic source; with that you will, at the same time, become conscious of gratitude and true happiness.

23.5.1935

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Q: P says she had a great depression after the Pranam.

A: Obviously she had approached me with a desire and her desire, finding it will not be satisfied, made her sad and depressed.

23.5.1935

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Q: In the beginning I felt so much love for you, but now the stream seems to have dried up or deviated; also it has become egoistic.

A: Yes, that is so. You have begun to bargain with what you gave and that has dried up the source.

24.5.1935

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Q: I have not known how to love you truly. What shall I do?

A: However, if you resolve not to ask for anything in exchange for what you give, you will soon recover the unique joy of loving.

24.5.1935

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Q: O Mother, do not let me go as I please. Hold me to thy bosom.

A: Certainly I do not want to let you leave me and there is nothing of the kind either.

25.5.1935

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Q: Let me keep the silence; let me enter into the solitude.

A: Keep the silence in your mind, enter into the solitude of the psychic being and there you will find me.

27.5.1935

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Q: Is it possible to come close to you with a love that is egoistic, full of desires and demands?

A: Until the nature is entirely transformed, it is always mixed: good and bad are side by side. Hence till the transformation, there will always be a mixture of egoism in all who come to me.

28.5.1935

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Q: How to make my love pure and psychic?

A: Do not think of yourself.

28.5.1935

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Q: You have asked me to keep the silence in the mind and enter the solitude of the psychic being. But how to do it? It is only you who can put me into that stage.

A: This is a totally tamasic response. My consciousness is always at work but on your side you must want and make an effort.

28.5.1935

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Q: Perhaps I need to live in physical solitude before I am able to enter into the solitude of the psychic being. I live only in the external consciousness.

A: Certainly, you live mostly in the mind, vital and physical. A little concentration would do you no harm, but you must keep a just balance.

28.5.1935

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If what you call solitude is to see just those whom it is indispensable to meet and no more and talk to them only when it is indispensable, then we agree.

30.5.1935

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Q: The depression continues. How long will I have to suffer this way? Take me up, Mother.

A: My dear child, I ask for nothing more than to get you out of this absurd depression. But I am afraid it is made of conflicting desires; in that case you must, first of all, give up these desires and ambitions. But you can be sure my help is always with you.

31.5.1935

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Q: What do you mean by psychic life of the world?

A: Just as there is a psychic life in human beings, there is a psychic life of the Earth and no doubt of the other worlds.

5.6.1935

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Q: How long will it take for the divine control to be established over my nature?

A: The time cannot be measured this way.

5.6.1935

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Q: What is the goal of human existence on earth?

A: Make the consciousness progress towards the Divine.

5.6.1935

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Q: P says one can do everything before Thee, revolt against Thee, show irritation, make demands, etc.

A: Of all the ways to approach me this is the worst. If you revolt, you can receive nothing and thus by revolting you waste your time and mine.

6.6.1935

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Q: When will I learn to live by Thee and for Thee?

A: It seems to me you are in the course of learning it and soon you will be able to do it continuously.

6.6.1935

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Q: When will I give myself completely to Thee?

A: When your whole being will be centralised around the psychic will.

7.6.1935

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Q: All to Thee, all that I am and to me…

A: The love, protection and help of your mama.

8.6.1935

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Q: If I have the psychic consciousness there will be no more difficulties.

A: Certainly the psychic consciousness has none of those difficulties; it has constantly the experience of my love and presence.

10.6.1935

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Q: How to acquire this psychic consciousness?

A: By aspiration, prayer and concentration.

11.6.1935

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Q: Perhaps my aspiration is not intense enough.

A: It is especially too intermittent.

11.6.1935

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Q: Would you tell me why I do not succeed immediately in my effort?

A: Because the external ignorance is too obstinate and yields only to a persistent effort.

11.6.1935

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Q: Why does your presence in me not prevent me from wrong?

A: Because the outer being — the one going wrong — ignores or refuses to recognise this presence.

11.6.1935

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Q: I am prepared to pay any price for the psychic consciousness. Tell me what I should do to get it?

A: The price to be paid is only a persevering will without fluctuation.

11.6.1935

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My blessings and my help accompany you on the path towards the psychic victory.

11.6.1935

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Q: Is the obscurity there within me or does it come from outside?

A: Obscurity is everywhere in material things — within and without.

12.6.1935

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Q: It is now three months since you said that you hoped I would soon have the psychic consciousness. It has not yet come. How long will it take still?

A: All depends on what one understands by soon.

12.6.1935

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Q: What do you mean by ‘soon’?

A: In my mind it means as quick as will be possible for me to do it under the given circumstances of your character. And the quantity is variable according to the resistance you will put up to me. May be some months, perhaps some years.

13.6.1935

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Q: I am not open, nor plastic, what shall I do?

A: If you were a little more calm inwardly, surely you would be more receptive.

13.6.1935

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Q: I have faith that you will lead me to the goal. I am impatient, I will try my best to persevere and be patient.

A: You will always find me with you in this effort.

14.6.1935

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to be continued…